Piers MorganJD Vance has returned to Islamabad for another attempt at ending the war with Iran, but expectations are low and talks may not even happen. Tensions have escalated after the US seized an Iranian cargo ship, prompting drone attacks on US vessels. This comes just days after President Trump claimed a major deal with Iran was already in place – a claim that now looks increasingly doubtful. At the same time, a war of words between Trump and the Pope has added a new dimension to the crisis.
Religious rhetoric from US officials, along with Trump’s recent statements and imagery, has drawn criticism at home and abroad – including from Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni. As political divisions deepen and alliances strain, one thing is clear: there is nothing holy about this conflict. Piers Morgan is joined by Senator and former prime minister of Italy, Matteo Renzi, senior minister and author of ‘No Such Thing As Bad Words’, Pastor Doug Wilson, author of The Left Hook on Substack, Wajahat Ali, commentator at The Bulwark, Tim Miller and Professor Mohammad Marandi of Tehran University to discuss.
00:00 Introduction
03:00 Former Italian PM Matteo Renzi on Giorgia Meloni turning on Trump
09:51 Renzi on Meloni’s statement about Pope Leo: “Everybody in Europe and the US agreed”
12:50 Criticism of the Pope
16:15 Panel debate begins on Trump’s attack on Pope Leo
16:56 Pastor Doug Wilson reacts to Matteo Renzi interview
19:00 Tim Miller on the Pope’s comments crossing a line
21:40 Wajahat Ali on Trump attacking the Pope
25:35 Pastor Doug Wilson responds to Wajahat
27:50 Donald Trump’s rhetoric threatening genocide
37:00 Photo of IDF soldier smashing Jesus statue in Lebanon
43:19 Piers asks Pastor Doug about Paula White-Cain’s comments
45:40 MAGA split over support for Trump and upcoming midterm elections
53:45 Professor Marandi joins discuss the US-Iran peace talks
55:50 Professor Marandi on the closure of the Strait of Hormuz
59:43 Human Rights Watch reports on Iran targeting Christian communities
01:04:46 Marandi on YouTube banning Lego war memes account and free speech in Iran
